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fandorin |
Richard Thompson |
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what a guitarist! i bought the Richard Thompson Songbook collection recently and am absolutely amazed by his abilities of guitar orchestration. Lots of Ricks, too! Check "Dead Man's Handle" or "Devonside". I wonder if he uses alternative tunings...
"You're an undiscovered wonder in a desolated place"
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Marcelo |
Richard Thompson | ||
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I just saw RT solo acoustic a month ago on his latest tour. Still in fine form. Recognized songs from the night include Bathsheeba Smiles, Uninhabited Man, Cooskferry Queen, From Galway to Graceland, Wall of Death, Keep Your Distance, and Hokey Pokey (an odd choice for solo acoustic). He also did "My Daddy Is a Mummy", a rockabilly-style song he wrote for his son's Egyptian history lesson. Something about "uniting the two Memphises", he said.
It took me awhile to appreciate his music. I don't care for his good-time boogie songs too much (Little Blue Number, Two Left Feet, Crash the Party, etc.), but his moody acoustic numbers are amazing, as are some of his edgy, harrowing electric blowouts (Calvary Cross, Shoot Out the Lights, Hard on Me). I'd love to see him live with an electric band again, but he's probably decided it's not worth the expense and effort (similar to Bob Mould). Speaking of Bob - his version of Shoot Out the Lights is revelatory. Clearly shows Richard's influence in Bob's solo music. -Marcelo |
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centuryhouse |
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I only knew RT from his days in Fairport Convention. I still have a double vinyl of one of theirs... and the Shoot Out The Lights LP also, which I bought from the guy in the Volares (remember them? Bucks Burnett & Paul Averitt with MWP, Julianne Regan, Dare Mason).
A guy I know here in Dallas is RT's drummer btw- his other projects have been excellent too. If you liked Eno's 'Apollo' then you'd like his band called HALLS OF THE MACHINE. Very dark cool ambient stuff and great live too. And then he was in COURSE OF EMPIRE which was amazing as well, drawing an art rock meets conspiracy theories meets The Clash meets industrial. Great stuff. dw |
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Jesuskrishna |
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When I think of myself as a 'guitar' player, which I try to avoid thinking as much as possible, near the top of my list of inspirations is Richard Thompson. He may be the perfect balance of skill & inspiration. A fiery player who can seemingly pull off any idea that enters his head whether it be silly & humourous or dark & dangerous, a flurry of frenzied notes or a single long drawn out cry, filled with the vibrato of a human voice like, this man pulls it off. anything. Marcelo, you mention that you don't care for his 'good time boogie' songs much, yet I love them. It gives him a spot to be frantic & completely expressive in an almost chaotic form & yet the lyrics to these songs are often even more dismal than his dark ballads. In my mind this man can do little wrong, & like the Church he's sustained that for a career, not just an album here or there. He's been at it since 1968! Daniel, you OWN Shoot Out The Lights & you haven't become a massive Thompson fan? That surprises me. It's not because he's Muslim is it? %^) Jesusmohammedkrishna |
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Jesuskrishna |
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Richard Thompson does indeed use alternative tunings...quite often in fact...his use of celtic/irish/arabic modalities REQUIRES them. Shit, there I go thinking like a guitarist again. At least I'm not a gearhead. %^) Jesuskrishna %^) P.S. When did RT use a Rickenbacker? |
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centuryhouse |
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JK - I just bought Shoot Out The Lights last year, so it's still fairly new to me in the grand scheme. Muslim...? Not a problem to me, I've got Muslim friends...why do you ask?
dw |
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Jesuskrishna |
A Place to start for RT Newbies.... | ||
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No worries Daniel...just a bit of a joke... %^)
If anyone has questions about where to start with Richard Thompson AND has a few dollars to spend, you can't go wrong with the 3CD career compilation called Watching The Dark. One of the best CD overviews of an artist I've ever seen, it offers a variety of RT tracks from every aspect of his career w/ Fairport Convention(ok, there coulda been more FC on it), with his wife Linda, & his solo career & because it refuses to show these tracks chronologically, mixing them all up instead, it offers a lot of insight into the consistent quality of his output & themes, musical or lyrical. It's also LOADED with unreleased live tracks that should frighten any guitarist, in the womb or elsewhere. I'll get to those... Richard Thompson is far too often known for his dark lyrics & I while I will admit that there is that aspect in his songs, there is also a wry sense of humour in the songs, even in those that appear to be bleak & pessimistic at first. A song like Hokey Pokey* that uses ice cream as metaphor for sex is straight up fun & silliness, but songs like From Galway To Graceland, Did She Jump Or Was She Pushed, or Wall Of Death have an underlying subtle & intelligent humour that can't be dismissed. His voice will seem limited to many of you at first, but I find it to be one of the most expressive of songwriters. Like Dylan, Neil Young & the like, it's filled with an abilty to convey a multitude of emotions even though it's first hearing might seem monotone or awkward. Deeper more detailed listening shows a depth rarely achieved by 'better' singers. His guitar playing is something else entirely. I'm rarely impressed by 'technical' players, they usually leave me feeling cold & disappointed by the lack of actual emotion in their playing. I tend to prefer players that can express emotions through raw, unbridled, passionate, almost chaotic playing ala Lou Reed, Neil Young, Will Seargent & of course MWP & PK to your wizards like Steve Howe, Alex Lifeson or Zappa. Thompson is both at once. An abilty to play almost any style or complicated lick, coupled with a lack of desire to do ANYTHING BUT capture emotion, he refuses to overdub solos, almost all RT recordings are done in a live setting with the whole band playing at once...if someone gets it wrong, they either start over or let the mistake(even his own) stand. Given that idea, Richard Thompson can often play a frenzied spell of notes that would make you dizzy, at other times he'll play ONE note & use the vibrato alone to express a wild range of emotions that most guitarists wish they could feel, let alone play. I'm going to think about this some more, pull out some RT & explain in more detail what I mean by this. This is far from my last word on this subject. You can be sure. Jesuskrishna %^) |
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Altres |
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I recently heard Industry and really liked it!
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thetawave |
Richard Thompson and Britany Spears | ||
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I love Shoot Out the Lights.
Last year I heard him cover "Oops, I Did it Again" on NPR. In the same interview he professed a great love of ABBA and Swedish Pop in general. |
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Marcelo |
Watching the Dark | ||
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I'll vouch for Watching the Dark. Great compilation. It took me forever to digest all the songs, but it's a great, in-depth sample of his work.
Mock Tudor is the only single-disc album I have. Absolutely brilliant. "Hope You Like the New Me" will send a shiver down your spine, I don't care how jaded you are about the dark side of human nature. -Marcelo |
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fandorin |
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Jesus,
>P.S. When did RT use a Rickenbacker? What's that jingle-jangle on e.g. "Devonside" from "Hand of Kindness"? Or on "when the spell is broken" (Across a crowded room) At least one Rick, if you ask me.... "You're an undiscovered wonder in a desolated place"
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fandorin |
Linda Thompson | ||
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Check out Linda Thompson's new album, "Fashionably Late", her first release in 16 years!! Feat. Richard Thompson (sic!), Daves Pegg & Mattacks (Fairport Convention), Van Dyke Parks...and listen to her fragile, almost breaking voice. Beautiful!!
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fandorin |
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Q Have you played any 12-string on any of your CDs? "Yankee Go Home" comes to mind.
A There seems to be a hint of 12-string on every album I've ever done. There's a solo on 12-string on "Mr. Rebound" - that was some weird guitar of Rob Schnaps'. I used to own a Rickenbacker, early model, reputed to be one of McGuinn's old ones which he broke and left in the UK - the neck was repaired by Steven Sobell - I got divorced from it, alas. I've mostly used Fender '12's on record. Q: I know that you often work with alternate tunings. Are these fairly common alternate tunings or have you made up some of your own? A I invented all my tunings, but somebody else invented them first! DADGAD, that's one of mine, of course.I was trying to imitate Clarence Ashleys banjo style, and figured he must be in a suspende 4th modal tuning, and tuned the guitar likewise - of course Martin Carthy and Davy Graham had already been doing this for years - I find a new tuning is necessary sometimes just to be able to physically play a song. For instance - 'Hide It Away' is tuned BGDGBE, and then capoed across the top 5 strings only at 4th fret and played in the key of B. As a euphonium player, I'm sure you appreciate the convenience of the Capo. The tuning Iuse for 'Vincent' - CGDGBE - which of course I also invented - has been used for ages by Hawai'ians. "You're an undiscovered wonder in a desolated place"
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Spirit March |
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He's here in Oz touring. Is anyone going to see him?
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honeysmoke |
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reading this thread this morning made me dig out and play Mirror Blue while i created breakfast for the kiddies...
RT is an emotional virtuoso, a Celtic Roy Buchanan... The Way That It Shows is THE definition of slow burner in my book... absolutely, acerbicly incendiary... Beeswing, as beautiful and delicate as the name implies... but tough as fucking nails at the same time.... and then King Of Bohemia, how fitting, eh??? "...and there is no rest for the ones God blessed, and he blessed you best of all..." all his work is pure brilliant heart, imho... good time maybe to mention the movie Grizzly Man... strange tale of one Timothy Treadwell and his relationship with grizzly bears... post humous doc assembled by Werner Herzog... i make no case for Timmy, but the images he leaves behind are beyond beautiful, beyond words... which is where RT comes in... he does the music in a way that parallels Neil Young's work on Dead Man... not as heavy, but an immediate visceral translation of visual to musical, and back again... worth checking out on many levels... i'd really like to get Chuck the Vinyl Junkies opinion of Timmy, from an Alaskan perspective... there's some wild tension in that film... all that said, see Thompson if you can!!! aloha, erik have a seat at...
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I saw him last night at a small venue (an old church converted to a concert hall.) He was with his current band and plugged in, YES, and the first set was all new songs, which will be his next release. Interesting one about Burning Man, one about the financial crisis, Money Shuffle, and some other dark and humorous compositions. One in particular was very bleak, titled something like Crime Scene, very haunting, and a historic tale involving the afterdark London scene, Dancing Shoes, where the Quay Brothers mixed with the well heeled. For never having heard any of them before, they were quite accessible and distinct. That set was recorded, and along with some other dates, the best takes will comprise the actual cd, if I understood correctly.
The second set was a wide ranging overview beginning with Time Will Show The Wiser, the very first song on the first Fairport Convention album, then an epic Can't Win, with the guitar solo that ate Cleveland, Al Bowly's In Heaven, Wall Of Death, the recent Take Care The Road You Choose and a rousing Tear-Stained Letter. Great show, one the best of his I've seen.
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