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        <![CDATA[ Here's what I think, on the fly. I've been listening to a promo copy.Firstly, I didnt take to this as quickly as BWTB but this albums a real grower, a good sign and there are some  instant 'hits' here meaning songs that many will love straight off. Uninvited has a lot of class. I love some tracks on the Beast cd but this is the one, with more strength musically, more of a structure and finish so to speak.  Yuk, sorry about the lame description but I know what i mean. Mind you I think Pearls... ]]>
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			<description><![CDATA[ while the middle bits and the weird dramaturgy of ULTC leave me strangely undecided most of the time, the final hattrick of Untoward, Day 5 n Song To Go are worth the album alone! Best closing section since Starfish n P=A. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Chrome, after I discovered my love of the Church a couple years ago, and having worn out my "Best of the Church" cd, I decided I needed to go get some more of this great music. Unfortunately, my local indie shop only had two available, the one I already had plus one other release, the brand new at the time ULTC. Without having heard a single note, I bought it and proceeded to have my jaw drop upon hearing Block. Probably played it 20 times before I even listened to the rest of the cd. While nothing else lived up to that opener for me, I did really enjoy it overall and it was my first proper album. Now, having heard the other albums I don't rate this one as highly as I once did, but it will always hold a special place for me. Block has never lost its perch as my favorite song however.<br><br>With regards to your recent comment, I'm not sure I'd call it religious as much as spiritual, but I find alot of their work falls into that category. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ To me, I hear Pink Floyd. I suppose listening to those guys could be considered a religious experience. <img src="http://static.yuku.com/domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/grin.gif"><br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ When I think of the genres ULTC might fit I eventually think of religious or even christian music. Block, Day 5 etc. Would it be wrong to propose that ULTC has a strong religious theme? It´s not really prominent but more like a secondary undertone. I´m not religious myself but I never have problems if artists reach for the big man. So, is ULTC more religious album than other The Church albums? I didn´t detect much of it in Forget Yourself. ULTC was more like the start of more prominent religious themes, even though there had been some before.<br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ A filler to get to the next page. ULTC becomes my monologue. Sorry.<br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><strong class="quote-title">ynnpar wrote:</strong><hr>... But maybe the way to do it with ULTC is to take the tracks I enjoy and ignore the rest.<br></blockquote>Do the mix and report back what you dropped. I think there is 4-5 songs
that could be switched with the best of BW2B and then it would rock big
time. I have to think about it before I show my list. Naah, why wait? it would be something like this:<br><br>Block (the opener)<br>Unified Field (works well after Block)<br>Snowfaller<br>Saturation<br>Pure Chance<br>I Don´t Know (free form song in the middle)<br>Easy (to lighten up the mid section)<br>Pearls<br>Untoward<br>Day 5 (this just has to come after Untoward)<br>Pantechnicon<br>Song To Go<br><br>I understand the whole album thingy as I usually do that too with other music but most of The Church discography has become so familiar that I´ve had to discover new ways to enjoy it. Usually I just put all of the 1000 or so songs including solostuff on shuffle with... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><strong class="quote-title">Severian wrote:</strong><hr>... The Beatles were so f****d up, they let Ringo sing a song. <br></blockquote>I think you found the reason why Tim doesn´t sing on The Church albums. They (SK) were f****d up enough to let him do it during the recording of The Refo:mation album but not later. Fando has to wait forever until Tim sings lead on The Church song because they are too straight now. This comparison is of course a relative issue as Tim = Ringo as a drummer but then he is also George Martin... <br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Chrome, I think you may be right here. I usually listen to entire albums. But maybe the way to do it with ULTC is to take the tracks I enjoy and ignore the rest. Maybe I could make a long-play mix of good songs from the Church albums I don't really care for? That would actually be an interesting project. I think I could get 20 songs easy from Skins &amp; Hearts, Sing Songs, Quick Smoke, Sometime Anywhere, Magician, Hologram, and ULTC (these being the disks I listen to least because they seem uneven to me).<br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I guess it is like that to me too. Most of my favourite artists have toyed with the d-subject in some way or another. It is just hard to say something about it in a thoughtful way.<br><br>Now that I´m at it, I think there is only one other d-song in ULTC. Or maybe it´s half of a d-song because it is well developed and almost an universal song. 1,5 d-songs in the whole album is fine with me. I know and you know what The Church is all about. Songs that are about something yet they are almost anything you want them to be. Songs you can listen 100 times yet still have no clue what they are all about. I´m not saying they all should be like that. It´s just that <span style="font-weight: bold;">ambiguity</span> is the thing they are good at and that´s what they do more than often. Then harsh graphic stuff sticks out like a sore thumb.<br><br>ULTC is a funny entity. Sometimes I appreciate it a lot yet sometimes it fails to connect entirely. The single songs are really excellent yet... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ The direction this thread has taken reminds me of something Bill Hicks once said " All those bands you love that made all that music that's so important to you... they were REEEEAL F*****G HIGH. The Beatles were so f****d up, they let Ringo sing a song. <br>I've always loved that. <br><br>Uninvited is probably my most listened to, and has overtaken GAF as my favorite Church album.<br><br>Joey<br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ This album has never worked for me. I haven't listened to it in ages because it always just seemed so uneven. A few of the songs are OK... but then that Koppes song comes on and totally destroys any energy the album might have built. I would never get to the end of the album to hear the good songs because I'd just have to turn it off then. Also -- and I know this is a petty complaint -- I don't like the cover art. All in all it just seemed like a project into which the band didn't put much real effort.<br><br>Drugs are drugs, by the way. A lot of people use them. In particular, it seems like a lot of artists use them. Songs about drugs often don't work. But there are some that are really quite interesting. New Order's True Faith is an amazing song about drug addiction, for example. I personally like a lot of druggy sounding music because it reminds me of taking drugs but doesn't actually require it. I've always enjoyed Kilbey's here and there references to drugs. The line from... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I love the final 3 songs too, I just love 3 of the first 9 as well.  I wasn't trying to argue that Space Needle was one of the best songs in my last post, I was just trying to say it became interesting when it completely reversed direction and mood.  I love Block, Unified Field, and Pure Chance, and genuinely like Overview, Easy, Never Before and even Space Needle.  My least favorites are SCBFYT and RTA, could have left them off.  I like the grandiose sound of the record, as off putting as it may be for some. This is one I play fairly often, as opposed to MOTS or Seance.  I do like to read differing opinions, thanks for sharing Fando, and Chrome. Milo, I like the undercurrent of discomfort under the sunny skies as well. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I saw that ULTC was under investigation, I listened to it and then wrote what I was thinking about it at that moment. If there is a song in ULTC that was perhaps lyrically half-baked (just my opinion) then I´m allowed to say so here whatever the subject material of the song was. I´m not asking for unnecessary complexity but Space Needle was just...not the best song in ULTC. Space Needle being track 3 and followed by track 4 Overview, another track that doesn´t create sparks that often, it kinda makes the start of the album in need of something.<br><br>If I think Day 5 is a good song am I then obsessed about religion?<br>If I think Unified Field is a good song am I then obsessed about friendship?<br>If I think (rightfully so) that the subjects in the songs of the band Eels are about electro-shocks, psychology, alcoholism and domestic abuse am I then obsessed about electro-shocks, psychology, alcoholism and domestic abuse?<br><br>I think not. Those are just subjects in published songs... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I could do without Easy and I always skip Never Before now, but otherwise I still really enjoy the album.&nbsp; <br><br>I've always found the music on it brighter/happier than on most of their other albums, but when you actually listen a bit more it becomes apparent they aren't so chipper after all.&nbsp; Sneaky little devils.&nbsp; I like that.&nbsp; <br><br><br>chromie hun, you are really drug-obsessed, aren't you?&nbsp; <img src="http://static.yuku.com/domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/wink.gif">&nbsp; ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I agree with the view Fando had elesewhere that ULTC meanders from good to okay during tracks 1-9 with some occasional glimpses of excellency. Then it´s 10.Untoward 11. Day 5 12. Song To Go which is simply the best part of the album. 3 songs that show their best sides in one tight group, which kinda overshadows the rest of the stuff. Why they buried them there in the end? With ULTC I´m thinking often if some changes on sequencing and changing couple of tracks from BW2B would have made it completely different and better.<br><br>Also, like cinoyes, what bothers me is Space Needle. SK has often claimed that his songs could be influenced by drugs yet they are not about drugs. With Space Needle even a non-druggie like me can see that it´s so obviously about drugs. I think it´s perfectly okay if the drugs are somewhere under the surface and it´s sort of like a hidden layer for those who are in to it. Most of the times that layer is not seen in the lyrics but in Space Needle that layer is... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I've gotten the impression that this is not one of the more popular recent offerings, except for a couple of tracks. &nbsp;I played it again yesterday, to take into account some of the opinions expressed.<div><br></div><div>I always liked it and still do. &nbsp;I understand the emphasis on pop or radio-friendly production is not a direction embraced by the devotes. &nbsp;Like they were trying to go back to the period after Starfish and make a glittering bauble for the masses. &nbsp;And looking back, for a band like this, seems like a shark deciding to stop swimming and begin contemplating the seaweed.</div><div><br></div><div>I take the contrary view: There is not one damn reason The Church shouldn't make a POP record, now and then. &nbsp;In fact I recall a lot of grumbling about the production on FY, and some feeling the songs were ill served by it. &nbsp;I think a good number of the songs on ULTC were pop songs, and others were decidedly not. &nbsp;Space Needle, sure doesn't start... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Block is an amazing Song
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My grandfather was an Artist, I do some drawing, but appreciate artists, and it means a lot to me.
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Space needle was not my favorite, I can only tolerate it for so long. The title sounds like a Syringe, and it sounds like a druggy song.
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Never Before is a wonderful song.
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Day 5 is incredible. It is amazing
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It&#39;s like he describes the creation of life on earth, from bacteria, amino acids, lightning in the seas, which is a theory that science has suggested. Read
the title as &quot;geneisis on the Fifth Day God Creatded...&quot; The time frame is definitly Hebrew Calandar. The Reference after thousands of years our
priests predicted you would come (Jesus) with your death ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <span style="font-style: italic;">twitching like a drunk in a pharmacy</span>
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astonishingly confident and accomplished album methinks, the church record I return to most often... their best album since hologram of baal in my book
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songs?  Space Needle, Easy, the MWP one, Pure Chance - there&#39;s a lot to say about the guitar work but I&#39;ll have to review this record properly at a
later date
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great artwork too, another one just asking for a vinyl release
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complaints?  song-wise not at all, perfectly sequenced ... soundwise?  shiny, spacey...but a bit too loud and sonically aggressive considering the nature of
the songs (though the church are hardly on the frontline of the loudness war)
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			<description><![CDATA[ I love the second, trippy half slightly better than the first half. It just seems more cohesive. Obviously, &quot;Untoward&quot; is a fav of mine, but I also
like &quot;Never Before&quot; and &quot;Day 5&quot;. Certainly much more introspective from SK than FY, not that that&#39;s bad.
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			<description><![CDATA[ These days I find myself listening to: Day 5, Unified Field, Block and Pure Chance. I like the acoustic EMS version of Pure Chance more. It has that hazy chick
me likey... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Here's what I think, on the fly. I've been listening to a promo copy.<br><br>Firstly, I didnt take to this as quickly as BWTB but this albums a real grower, a good sign and there are some  instant 'hits' here meaning songs that many will love straight off. Uninvited has a lot of class. I love some tracks on the Beast cd but this is the one, with more strength musically, more of a structure and finish so to speak.  Yuk, sorry about the lame description but I know what i mean. Mind you I think Pearls from BWTB is a gorgeous track that i love to death.<br><br>BLOCK's a killer of an opening track. There's no way you'd mistake this for anything but a Church track. I love the way it kicks off with Steve's voice coming through nice and clear and then the guitars start building up and up in the background with the very gentle drumming getting faster and faster but still indiscreet... this is an epic song with just a tiny memory of 'Ripple' to me. My favourite songs ever are ones that bring... ]]></description>

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