Gold Afternoon Fix

Gold Afternoon Fix http://hotelwomb.com/topic/2124/Gold-Afternoon-Fix en-us Copyright 2011, Yuku ceco@yuku.com (FeedMaster) webmaster@yuku.com (WebMaster) Tue, 25 Dec 2001 10:24:26 GMT Mon, 01 Feb 2010 12:13:08 GMT Kickapps Feeds 1.0 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 60 {pics-1.1 "http://www.icra.org/ratingsv02.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (nz 1 vz 1 lz 1 oz 1 cz 1 ) "http://www.rsac.org/ratingsv01.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (n 0 s 0 v 0 l 0 )) Search Search Domain q http://yuku.com/search/direct/ <![CDATA[ Re: Gold Afternoon Fix ]]> http://hotelwomb.com/reply/68576/Gold-Afternoon-Fix#reply-68576 For me it came sandwiched between two albums that are amongst the most important in my life - then and now.
I also saw them 3 times on the GAF tour and didn't enjoy the way I felt the band were on stage - in terms of attitude not music.
Additionally, I'd not long been married and for a couple of years had two jobs to help pay the bills, so for a couple of years that and an unfortunate dalliance with becoming a worship leader in an evangelical church (long story - none the better for the telling) took priority over the latest Church release. That release happened to be GAF.
So GAF isn't much a part of my musical heritage.....but I do like it.
I think pretty much every other Church release has led to me putting real life on hold for a few weeks to absorb the noise. Amen! ]]> feeds@yuku.com (davem2) http://hotelwomb.com/reply/68576 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 12:13:07 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Gold Afternoon Fix ]]> http://hotelwomb.com/reply/68573/Gold-Afternoon-Fix#reply-68573 fandorin wrote:

i think it's amazing how GAF connects with so many people's mindset, and how it spawns the impression of something really epic and futuristic going on. lyrically, it's a very very sophisticated album, and both the words and the guitars leave so many holes to fill with your dark imagination, which is gently steered by the record... i also like the clarity of it. ok, i have nothing against trippy, but i adore SF's and GAF's sharpness and clarity.

So true! For me this came out in perfect timing with an old Sega Genesis game called Phantsy Star 2. This was shortly before I started expanding my mind with other substances so combied with GAF it was like my own personal portal to "something epic and futuristic".

]]> feeds@yuku.com (Torn n Frayed) http://hotelwomb.com/reply/68573 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 11:39:50 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Gold Afternoon Fix ]]> http://hotelwomb.com/reply/68556/Gold-Afternoon-Fix#reply-68556 feeds@yuku.com (fandorin) http://hotelwomb.com/reply/68556 Sat, 30 Jan 2010 04:18:56 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Gold Afternoon Fix ]]> http://hotelwomb.com/reply/68550/Gold-Afternoon-Fix#reply-68550

Well said ]]> feeds@yuku.com (thetawave) http://hotelwomb.com/reply/68550 Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:07:00 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Gold Afternoon Fix ]]> http://hotelwomb.com/reply/68548/Gold-Afternoon-Fix#reply-68548

As a unified work the, one song that stands outside the theme for me is You're Still Beautiful. I like it quite a bit, but it feels like a diversion.

Disappointment has always been one of my favorites and the central line "I can't find my memory anywhere" poses Dick's question about human vs android consciousness. It captures the dislocated feeling of not being sure if you are even a "genuine" person or a "genuine fake"(a direct quote from Dick.) While your senses are occupied by empty rituals and vague reassurances, you can't find yourself in your surroundings, are they just a stage set?

]]> feeds@yuku.com (miles aweigh) http://hotelwomb.com/reply/68548 Thu, 28 Jan 2010 16:21:55 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Gold Afternoon Fix ]]> http://hotelwomb.com/reply/68542/Gold-Afternoon-Fix#reply-68542 ]]> feeds@yuku.com (chrome3D) http://hotelwomb.com/reply/68542 Wed, 27 Jan 2010 02:37:47 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Gold Afternoon Fix ]]> http://hotelwomb.com/reply/68540/Gold-Afternoon-Fix#reply-68540
Gold Afternoon Fix was released at the same time I discovered Phillip K. Dick. This fortuitous pairing has always influenced my perceptions of GAF. In my opinion, GAF has as much to do with PKD as it does with any of its musical influences. Dick, like other great science fiction writers, penned social, political, and philosophical critiques disguised as science fiction. GAF is populated by characters enslaved to power and intoxicated by technology, vanity, and drugs, poised on the precipice of some poignant knowledge of reality.

Consider Pharaoh with its imagery of a brutal power enforcing profit over principle (one man with a big connection takes the whole damn ship in the wrong direction) contrasted with a voice asking for sanity (is there anybody out there/show your faces if you dare). This is a consistent theme in Dick's novels. Ive heard that its about the bands relationship to the record label in the wake of the... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (thetawave) http://hotelwomb.com/reply/68540 Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:26:12 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Gold Afternoon Fix ]]> http://hotelwomb.com/reply/68536/Gold-Afternoon-Fix#reply-68536
three of the best and most enlightening posts ive read here in a long time!!

> like a reminder of an era that never actually existed in rock music

YES!! ]]> feeds@yuku.com (fandorin) http://hotelwomb.com/reply/68536 Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:11:12 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Gold Afternoon Fix ]]> http://hotelwomb.com/reply/68534/Gold-Afternoon-Fix#reply-68534
I don't think trying to make a "commercial" record is an inevitable doom, and in the case of GAF, the talent and vision of the band shine through the frustration and constraints, internal and external. Despite many characterizations of it as half assed, I find it quite ambitious... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (miles aweigh) http://hotelwomb.com/reply/68534 Mon, 25 Jan 2010 09:56:47 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Gold Afternoon Fix ]]> http://hotelwomb.com/reply/68531/Gold-Afternoon-Fix#reply-68531
Even though the band is clearly not satisfied with it, I still think it´s one of their best efforts. They say that they were not firing on all cylinders while doing this but that may be the thing which makes GAF special. Other good things might come out when you are not trying and it´s not needed to fill all parts with bigger and louder bombast. Besides, GAF shows that SK has a certain level that he is simply unable to get rid of, hard as he may try. We all know that Marty and especially PK have a... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (chrome3D) http://hotelwomb.com/reply/68531 Sun, 24 Jan 2010 20:56:20 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Gold Afternoon Fix ]]> http://hotelwomb.com/reply/68528/Gold-Afternoon-Fix#reply-68528 great album in my opinion, and is in many ways the apex of Kilby's decadent period. I love the science fiction movie for which this provides the soundtrack. One of the earlier comments referred to Philip K Dick, and I heartily concur, in how the theme of alienation is expressed in many forms. The future is dystopian, but superficially pleasant. What is real, or human becomes an elusive quest, as technological perfection masks and mimics the beauty and ugliness of existence. Dick wrote about drugs quite a bit as well, and I don't think you can remove that vibe from GAF; they are a refuge and a barrier to clear perception. In this kind of world, however, clear perception may induce... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (miles aweigh) http://hotelwomb.com/reply/68528 Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:45:56 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Gold Afternoon Fix ]]> http://hotelwomb.com/reply/66822/Gold-Afternoon-Fix#reply-66822 ]]> feeds@yuku.com (ynnpar) http://hotelwomb.com/reply/66822 Thu, 17 Sep 2009 05:41:36 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Gold Afternoon Fix ]]> http://hotelwomb.com/reply/66817/Gold-Afternoon-Fix#reply-66817

Is This Where You Live
You Took
Shadow Cabinet
Essence
Let Me Tell You A Secret (noctorum)

Just that they insert soul and heart into Neu!'s constructions. They paint the rooms Dinger & Rother constructed... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (fandorin) http://hotelwomb.com/reply/66817 Thu, 17 Sep 2009 03:09:40 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Gold Afternoon Fix ]]> http://hotelwomb.com/reply/66787/Gold-Afternoon-Fix#reply-66787
Other than You're Still Beautiful and the drums, which do sound very robotic, I love GAF, always have.
]]> feeds@yuku.com (ynnpar) http://hotelwomb.com/reply/66787 Wed, 16 Sep 2009 05:12:06 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Gold Afternoon Fix ]]> http://hotelwomb.com/reply/66739/Gold-Afternoon-Fix#reply-66739 feeds@yuku.com (fantasticandy) http://hotelwomb.com/reply/66739 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:48:18 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Gold Afternoon Fix ]]> http://hotelwomb.com/reply/66716/Gold-Afternoon-Fix#reply-66716 .
I can't believe all the people who singled out essence to mention ( at least the ones I read ) have not picked up on its Kraut -rock origins.
*note to Fandorin ; your're posting from Berlin , right ? I'm aware of your extensive musical knowledge. I'm sure you know of " Neu ! ".

I'm sure the Church would not be averse to acknowleging that Essence, at least musically if not lyrically , is an homage to the Dusseldorf group ( duo? ) Neu ! who came along at the time of Can, Cluster and the early Kraftwerk.
The drummer , Klaus Dinger, had this patented beat, "motorik " named because it was so propulsive.
The Church are in good company because David Bowie did the same on the track " Red Sails
" on his album, Lodger .

anybody out there... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (newoldfan) http://hotelwomb.com/reply/66716 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 04:21:16 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Gold Afternoon Fix ]]> http://hotelwomb.com/reply/66518/Gold-Afternoon-Fix#reply-66518 fandorin wrote:

i stand by my word - GAF is a brilliant record, with the only major flaw being the absence of real drums. the guitars sound immaculate! also some extra points for being the best-dressed and -styled band on the planet in 1990
+1
]]> feeds@yuku.com (camel) http://hotelwomb.com/reply/66518 Sat, 05 Sep 2009 09:13:12 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Gold Afternoon Fix ]]> http://hotelwomb.com/reply/66516/Gold-Afternoon-Fix#reply-66516 feeds@yuku.com (fandorin) http://hotelwomb.com/reply/66516 Sat, 05 Sep 2009 08:55:06 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Gold Afternoon Fix ]]> http://hotelwomb.com/reply/66514/Gold-Afternoon-Fix#reply-66514
p.s. good forum, nice to see church related discussion on the net, well done all. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Terry Novacaine) http://hotelwomb.com/reply/66514 Sat, 05 Sep 2009 07:25:44 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Gold Afternoon Fix ]]> http://hotelwomb.com/reply/62410/Gold-Afternoon-Fix#reply-62410 ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Untoward) http://hotelwomb.com/reply/62410 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:17:22 PST <![CDATA[ Gold Afternoon Fix ]]> http://hotelwomb.com/topic/2124/Gold-Afternoon-Fix

What can one say...
After truly marvelling at how a band verging on near obscurity
managed to piece together a true sonic sound-scape such as
'Starfish', all a hardcore fan of Steve Kilbey and the boys could
do was to dream and imagine what kind of acoustic genius would
surface on their next release.
The most remarkable aspect of 'Gold Afternoon Fix' was how
truly UNremarkable it was, and is. In fact, the boys probably
took longer deciding on the title than they did working out any
of the songs comprising this 70-minute testament to how NOT
to take advantage of any 'lucky stars' blowing your way.
When I hear Steve sing "all those lucky, lucky stars we've been
blowing" on 'Frozen and Distant' I always think he's singing
about the band's decent into musical emptiness that surely
pervaded... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Fraulein Myrrh) http://hotelwomb.com/topic/2124 Tue, 25 Dec 2001 10:24:26 PST